Scor 4060 Z LT e ST

[Alone]

Ok
Perfetto… e’ un suo limite strutturale quindi.
Mi adeguo: anche se sul veloce limita un pochino la precisione di guida.
Per il resto gran bici che ricomprerei.. peccato che non ne vedremo mai una bella evoluzione.

Prodotti MTB scontati

 

[Alone]

Varie cose da controllare
Hai uno dei perni rotti
Devi tirarla vite del basso sul carro.
I cuscinetti del link basso sono andati

Già controllato in fase di rimontaggio: a meno che non li abbia rotti io nel farlo. Ma non credo

 

[Oettam20]

Già comtrollato in fase di rimontaggio: a meno che non li abbia rotti io nel farlo. Ma non credo

Non sarebbe cosi difficile romperli durante il serraggio se sono i perni di prima generazione sono soggetti a rotture durante l'uso o il serraggio. E' vero che non è il carro dei più rigidi ma quando inizia a flettere tanto di solito sono le viti dei perni non strette abbastanza, o rotte. Lo dico per esperienza personale mia e di altra gente che la possiede.

 

[Alone]

Non sarebbe cosi difficile romperli durante il serraggio se sono i perni di prima generazione sono soggetti a rotture durante l'uso o il serraggio. E' vero che non è il carro dei più rigidi ma quando inizia a flettere tanto di solito sono le viti dei perni non strette abbastanza, o rotte. Lo dico per esperienza personale mia e di altra gente che la possiede.

questi ad occhio sono quelli nuovi; moto dl 2023..in acciaio comunque. se li avessi rotti serrando dovrei aver sentito qualcosa di strano, credo.

i cuscinetti inferiori, quelli grandi, erano leggermente ossidati, ma senza giochi. LI ho puliti e ingrassati e direi che erano tornati ad un efficienza del 95%.li ho cmq riordinati per cambiarli con calma.

 

[Alone]

Oppss
Per scrupolo sono sceso in garage e ho ricontrollato il serraggio della Vitona principale. Ed era ok
Ma avevo lasciata lente quella del link che è di fianco alla presa di ricarica.
sicuramente influiva sul problema.
MI sono ricordato ,ora, di aver inserito quell'asse, piazzato il paracatena con le sue 2 vitine, senza poi riserrare la vite opposta, solo accostata.
La riprovo domani, tempo permettendo.

RINGRAZIO TUTTI PER LE CORRETTE INDICAZIONI...ma al cervello bacato non c'è rimedio!

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

Anyone damage or rip the rubber cover on their charge ports? Seems finding a replacement isn't easy.

 

[Qwert]

Ok
Perfetto… e’ un suo limite strutturale quindi.
Mi adeguo: anche se sul veloce limita un pochino la precisione di guida.
Per il resto gran bici che ricomprerei.. peccato che non ne vedremo mai una bella evoluzione.

In realtà nn credo sia un limite. Semplicemente è fatta così,magari anche volutamente. Va di un gran bene ed è super divertente. Ovvio che all occhio nn fa simpatico. Ripiegai su altro per una mia convinzione ( sbagliata) sull affidabilità che potesse avere nel tempo. La sensazione di fragilino la da, ecco. Cosa cmq smentita dai miei compagni di uscite che la scarrozzano da 2 anni e 0 rogne. È così, balla un pelo.

 

[Alone]

Anyone damage or rip the rubber cover on their charge ports? Seems finding a replacement isn't easy.

Have you tried write directly at Scor?

 

[Alone]

In realtà nn credo sia un limite. Semplicemente è fatta così,magari anche volutamente. Va di un gran bene ed è super divertente. Ovvio che all occhio nn fa simpatico. Ripiegai su altro per una mia convinzione ( sbagliata) sull affidabilità che potesse avere nel tempo. La sensazione di fragilino la da, ecco. Cosa cmq smentita dai miei compagni di uscite che la scarrozzano da 2 anni e 0 rogne. È così, balla un pelo.

Sinceramente la adoro, ma quelle flessioni a mio parere NON possono dare alcun vantaggio nella guida.
Se poi questa elasticità è voluta per preservare da cedimenti strutturalli, più probabili su un componente eccessivamente rigido, lo ignoro..

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

Have you tried writing directly at Scor?

Yes, I messaged them and for a replacement bash guard which has been smashed on its 3rd ride.... ugh, this bike is going to have a hard life. Wish there was an aluminum/steel bash guard available in the aftermarket. Not sure this newer rubber/plastic bash guard is better as the rubber seems to "grip" when impacted. Slow-speed log-over and the side of the motor guard broke.

I did find this for the rubber cover: https://franciscreation.com/charging-port-cover

 

[Alone]

Yes, I messaged them and for a replacement bash guard which has been smashed on its 3rd ride.... ugh, this bike is going to have a hard life. Wish there was an aluminum/steel bash guard available in the aftermarket. Not sure this newer rubber/plastic bash guard is better as the rubber seems to "grip" when impacted. Slow-speed log-over and the side of the motor guard broke.

I did find this for the rubber cover: https://franciscreation.com/charging-port-cover

It’s seems the right one!

For the Bush guard i’ve change my original one ( broken) wirh the new generation months ago
At the moment is ok, but between the line of the rubber is always full of mud!

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

Well, this was fun while it lasted... all of 6 rides, just bought it 2 weeks ago.

 

[Alone]

It could be only the paint… I hope.
It looks like a stone

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

It could be only the paint… I hope.
It looks like a stone

Its cracked on both sides and its not a rock strike. On the NDS the paint just flaked off. If you search user groups, you'll find cracked rear triangles affecting many users. Some even, cracking multiple replacements.

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

@Alone your surprised it cracked or cracked so soon? I read some of the reports of these cracking before buying one... but often online folks post negative experiences or problems. As we say, "take it with a grain of sand"...

However, now that I've been researching more... it seems more wide spread. Some users racking triangles within a month, others a year and some a few years. Add to that, early models (2022) suffered more failures and SCOR supposedly redesigned the triangle. That included adding the "chain suck" stainless steel plate.

There's a Facebook 4060z LT users group and there numerous reports of failures. Even a Youtube video , though it was a 4060 LT (not Z) where the owner cracked 2 front triangles. Though his belief it related to the small amount of material on the size small frame between the cable port (hole through the frame) and the head tube. Since both failed in that exact same spot.

 

[Alone]

I’ve also read those reports.. my experience is limited at two bikes. One older, a friend of mine owner, and mine.
He had change one time the axle of the suspension with the new model
On the two bikes no other frame problems.
Three EP8 broken, but that it’s not a Scor fault.

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

I've also read those reports.. my experience is limited at two bikes. One older, a friend of mine owner, and mine.
He had changed one time the axle of the suspension with the new model
On the two bikes no other frame problems.
Three EP8 broken, but that it's not a Scor fault.

Obviously it doesn't affect every owner... however, there seems to be a trend. The worrying one, is owners who've had multiple replacement triangles. One owner reported being on his 5th triangle from SCOR.

I compiled some of their feedback to provide the dealer and SCOR... this isn't an isolated issue, and the repeat failures are concerning.

 

[Alone]

Perhaps many make improper use of it, with jumps over 50cm.
It is approved as level 4, not 5

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

Perhaps many make improper use of it, with jumps over 50cm.
It is approved as level 4, not 5

Please... its a 160/170 mm bike. In the US, bikes don't have to be classified at those ASTM levels. However, if you buy a 160-170 mm bike the manufactorer expects you to ride proper steeps, drops, jumps, park laps, etc... The 4060 is categorized as an enduro bike by SCOR, if that means jumps/drops less than 1.2 m then we have very different ideas of enduro/all-mountain riding.

I do 2 m drops on my Yeti SB120... a 120/130 travel trail bike. Those ASTM classifications seem made for cross-country bikes haha. I'm riding trails with friends on bikes like SC Hightower, Revel Rascal, SC Bullitt, Revel Rail, Deviate Highlander, IBIS Rimpo... I suspect none are rated as category 5.

 

[bmwpowere36m3]

I'll also note, it seems the 4060 LT (non eMTB) isn't affected by these rear triangle failures... the rear triangle on the 4060z LT is different due to the pivot points and the motor. My guess, its a design issue that wasn't properly real-world tested enough and since SCOR is no longer "in operation" they won't be analyzing, redesigning or fixing the issue. Just offer replacement parts, till they run out of stock.

Articles do claim the rear triangle was redesigned from the initial release in 2022... but that may have just been related to chain wearing into the triangle due to angles with large 50T rear cassette.

Apart from the color, the 2024 models resemble their predecessors like a pea in a pod. And indeed, the Swiss have not altered the design or handling characteristics. The only minor changes are in the hardware: the rear triangle axles and the battery closure are now made of a different material. Scor emphasizes that this was by no means necessary, but was implemented as part of the update to prevent potential problems. At the same time, the rear triangle was slightly redesigned and is narrower in the chain area to achieve more clearance on the large sprockets. Furthermore, the down tube protection was reinforced around the motor.​